Haul with (relative) ease.
The Black Diamond Touchstone Haul Bag is a mid-sized pig for single-bivy big wall routes. Vinyl-laminated nylon material makes the Touchstone incredibly burly, since it's hardly going to get the royal treatment. Bring key bivy items like a sleeping bag and wallgaritas up the wall in your Touchstone Haul Bag's 4,272 cubic inches of space.
- Stowable shoulder straps won't snag when hauling
- Double-walled skirt makes for easy access, and the skirt ensures that water will run right off
- Bottom attachment point for hauling multiple bags
- Padded, removable waist-belt to ease the strain of approaching
- Q & A
It is really ok for the price
- Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions
For 30 dollars more, you can get metolius haul bag. I used BD touchstone once on South face WC, the fabric on the top kind of broke. The shoulder and waist straps are really hard to use, and almost impossible to take in and out. Other than that, it works pretty well.
It hauls stuff
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
This bag has been great for what I needed. I honestly haven't done much hauling with it but for everyday carrying stuff to the crag it has done well. Its nice to be able to just dump all your stuff in, turn it upside down, and empty the bag out with ease. Also, the material is so burly that you don't have to worry about ripping it on anything. I'll update when I get some big wall use out of it!
BD Touchstone pig
black diamond touchstone haul bag
bag was just what i wanted. i hate pockets sometimes.
this is quite simple big empty bag w one little stash for valuables. fits keys wallet money and camera-little pocket w tri pod.
just wish it had the handle by the shoulder straps like others packs when i move it around.
it has nice haul straps for big wall but i just use for day climbs.
the inside pocket is upside down it makes sense when you pull it up so it is attached at bottom. i forget to pull it up so i open upside down quite often.never lost anything but it is like i cant believe i did it again.
what is the blue webbing for?
what is the blue webbing for?
Hossfly, It is used for clipping carabiners, quickdraws, and other climbing tools.
What would you recommend for el Cap, this...
What would you recommend for el Cap, this one or the 120 lts???
The bigger one.
Lotsa room and comfortable to wear on the approach - think this bag will last forever.
Not to bad
This haul bag definitely does its job. While it may not be as good as the competing Metolius or older A5 bags, this bag is great. The main differences are narrower haulstraps, and the top enclosure system. These differences do not detract from the quality of the bag. This is a great Grave IV bag or like Cedar says below, "If you are someone who has trouble fitting their rack rope and say drill or pitons for first ascent cragging this could be a good choice."
Another note is this bag carries extremely well. Comfortable!
can someone give me a list of things you...
can someone give me a list of things you can fit into this when you go climbing? like what things would you fill this up with for single pitch routes i like to climb in utah and rarely sport climb so including protection if that helps thank you
This is more of a haul bag for multi-pitch/big wall climbs where you'll be sleeping on the wall and need something sturdy enough to hoist over craggy surfaces. If you want something to haul gear out for a day of single pitch trad climbing, a more conventional backpack will likely work alot better. I can fit all my sportclimbing gear, to include a 60-meter rope and a day's worth of food and water, in my 32 liter Black Diamond Demon backpack. If I was wanting to take all my trad gear as well, I think I could fit everything in a 45-50 liter pack. If you have a ton of trad gear, you may have to carry your rope on the outside of the pack. The upside of a 50-liter backpack is that it could get you through a 3-day hike or a 2-day mountaineering trip. Of course, if you don't have far to walk, you could carry all your stuff with a small daypack and a gear sling.
That's a very thoughtful and accurate answer. I read Sam's question at about 10 o'clock last night and my mind went for a swim on all the possibilities of how it could be used, and the array of gear and provisions this bag could hold. I guess the only thing I could really add is that it could also be used to consolidate his equipment at base camp before sorting through what he needed to bring for the day's climb.
I looked at your profile- let me guess- unless those are the McCammond brothers, you're the one in the middle.
I agree that these big wall haul bags could be useful in a ton of situations. They look like they'd last forever and hold a ton of stuff. I've drueled over them more than once. But, until I find myself preparing for a big wall, I don't think I could justify the extra piece of gear...although I always find my mind trying to justify more gear:)
I am the one in the middle:) I don't recall the names of the two other fellows. But, I hung out with them atop Mount Iwate and they were a blast. I wish they hadn't brought so much sake though. It was painful getting off the mountain the next day;)
well the main reason I'm thinking about this bag is cause of its durability and because it will be hauled up some walls and beat up even though i don't plan to spend the night on the wall. I've just killed a bag or two on that sandstone, and like you said eric, if i get the chance and its easier i will take a gear sling and a day pack thanks for the answer
Love it . . .
Out standing bag . . . Moving my rack in or out of this guys is a snap.(My rack BD C4's #4-.3 and then some) No more fuss with working it into my backpacking bag. Tons of room (70L got to love it) for layers, water, food and any thing under the sun. Only gripe is the straps . . . could use some more padding! Cant wait to hit the big walls with this guy.
Needs load lifters
Off the bat: awesome bag but desperately needs load lifters. I packed this thing full with 50 lbs of gear (overstuffed for sure) and had a 3 hour approach through some gnarly off trail terrain. The bag resisted thorns and being thrown around like a suit of armor but my neck and shoulders were killing me, all that are missing are load lifters like its larger siblings.
So I've had a touchstone for three years and it's been half way to hell and back with me and is still hanging tough...this is a durable set up...built for uber-abuse. The suspension system is excellent for a Haul bag, which means less suffering (yes you will still suffer it's not an anti gravity haul bag.) If you are someone who has trouble fitting their rack rope and say drill or pitons for first ascent cragging this could be a good choice. When I was putting up some of my Indian Creek FAs last year this was the perfect bag to get everything and the kitchen sink to the base. This is the perfect second or third bag depending on your stay on the wall. WHen you carry loads down or up...the heavy stuff goes in this and the rest goes in the big pig so weights are distributed evently. While this haulbag will not make you walk on water or help you read the minds of your enemies...it will get you to the base of your dream proj. with everything you will need to send HUGE!
Simple and tough!
A perfect sized haul bag for one-bivy walls or as a second bag on grade VI's. It also holds EVERYTHING you would ever need for a day at the crags too! The stand-up-by-itself design makes it easy to use while its on the ground. The shoulder straps carry OK for a haul bag but I wouldn't go far without slipping a foam pad into the back panel to keep your hardware from poking you in the spine.
This bag lacks the dry-bag closures, sealed seams, and internal daisies featured on other bags but it does have a super handy internal pocket/pouch!