These pants feel really great on almost like you're not wearing pants :) Super comfortable with a good amount of stretch for climbing. The thick waist band is nice if you are climbing with a harness. I didn't have to worry about the back of the pant sliding down or gaping. I wear a 26 in almost every brand and went with and XS in these and they fit perfect. Would love to see this material in a more casual jogger with a lower rise!